Path: sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!bounce-back From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.legal,trial.misc.legal.software,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.compression Subject: RESULT: comp.patents, misc.legal.computing, misc.int-property pass Message-ID: <+tqng-h@rpi.edu> Date: 20 Sep 91 03:52:08 GMT Sender: tale@cs.rpi.edu Followup-To: news.groups Lines: 432 Approved: tale@rpi.edu Xref: sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au news.announce.newgroups:1383 news.groups:32431 misc.legal:9681 gnu.misc.discuss:3582 comp.compression:1272 Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu comp.patents: 269 y, 45 n, 14 a -- passes misc.legal.computing: 253 y, 40 n, 35 a -- passes misc.int-property: 213 y, 77 n, 38 a -- passes NAME comp.patents CHARTER: A group for the discussion of issues relating to patents and their relationship to computer technology (hardware & software) (although it is envisaged that the the nature of the subject would allow discussions that are not necessarily restricted to computer technology nor strictly to patents, but rather to be centered around these topics.) Examples include: -The provision of FAQ relating to basics of patent laws. -The social usefulness of software patents -The patentability or patent status of a particular algorithm. -The international patent laws -business transactions that involve the exchange of patent information, such as cross-licensing or litigation of patents. -recent court cases where companies or individuals have run into patent troubles. -other legal aspect of computers and technology MODERATION STATUS: moderated by Peter Treloar There has been a volunteer to act as moderator, here's what he has to say. (He also wrote most of the rest of the text so I'd be willing to count on his judgement.) "I am willing to serve as a moderator, my name is Peter Treloar and I have degrees in Law and Computer Science from the University of Melbourne (Australia). I am presently teaching Computer Science at the University of Sydney and also completing examinations for registration as a Patent Attoney in Australia, (as well as thinking about a Masters degree in this area). These examinations take a number of years to complete and involve extensive study of foreign patent laws (especially the US). "Hence I envisage a policy as moderator of eliminating discrepencies and misconceptions in patent laws which postings (except maybe from misc.legal) frequently evidence. A FAQ explaining the basics of Patents and providing information or explanations of relevant cases that relate to computers could also be provided." NAME misc.legal.computing CHARTER: A group for the discussion of legal aspects of computers, or places where computers or computer users bump into the law. This charter is very broad, intended to cover any of the following sorts of things: - Electronic communications privacy laws - Anti-trust, monopolies, Judge Greene, and computer networks - License agreements, legal status thereof, GNU Public License - Look and feel copyrights, who has them, who's litigating instead of writing code - Any computers and patents discussion leaked over from above - Operation Sun Devil, Secret Service, BBS raids - and anything else remotely related. MODERATION STATUS: unmoderated. NAME misc.int-property CHARTER: A group for the discussion of intellectual property rights, that is to say the field clustering around the notions of patents, copyrights, trade secrets, or other rights and benefits retained by the original producer of a creative work. This is not necessarily a computer-specific group; the recent decision by music companies to return royalties on blank digital tapes to composers and performers who are presumably being harmed by digital copies is relevant. Also relevant is the broad spectrum of user interface look-and-feel copyrights, rights to derivative works, international copyright differences, perhaps some discussion sneaking in about patents too. Whatever. There's plenty to talk about and no good home for it now. MODERATION STATUS: unmoderated Votes follow, patents first, then m.l.c, then m.i-p. aaa Tim Arnold aaa Richard Murphey aaa Paivi Helena Hyvarinen aan Odd Einar Aurbakken aay Robert Thau aay ininx!jkreznar@uunet.UU.NET ([John E. Kreznar]) aay Thommy Malmstrom ann a3@tintin.rivm.nl (Adri Verhoef) aya davet@apd.MENTORG.COM (Dave Taffs) aya Odd Einar Aurbakken aya Alan Thew aya balbes@osiris.rti.org (Lisa M. Balbes) aya "Peter S. 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